[Nova-Net] [NLSA-NOVA] Re: Poll VOTING

Dale Kubichek n6jsx at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 16 12:35:20 PDT 2006


Peter, 
   The reason I have membership required is two fold;
try and control spamming and "to gage the interest in
the site". 

I wish Yahoo would add/have an owner accessible group
"hits" counter(s). 

I've not understood the paranoia to joining a User
Group that is FREE. It does require a desire and a
small effort. But then again HAMdom is becoming
nothing but freebies and gimmies. It appears that some
HAMs think by joining the User Group it will offend
someone. 

N6JSX


--- Peter Buehner <Peter at Buehner.net> wrote:

> Kuby,
> 
> The only reason I think the NLSA-NOVA group has some
> promise is because messages from all posters are
> archived and easily searchable at YahooGroups.  It's
> a shame that the original "Nova-Net" messages
> weren't archived from the very beginning.  Of
> course, Nova-Net started back when the current
> YahooGroups was owned by another organization,
> called Egroups.  Getting "in" required some approval
> by the owners back then.  Now, it's another story.
> 
> Of course today, it takes some cooperation from
> subscribers and a sense of belonging to make it a
> success.  Involvement should be easy, and if
> individuals do not plan to post a message, they
> should not be required to subscribe.  At your
> NSLA-NOVA site, I noticed that unless your are a
> subscriber, posted messages cannot be read - and
> therefore the archives are non-searchable.  I would
> suggest that you make all messages readable (and
> searchable) to everyone, regardless of membership
> status.  You can always control their (future)
> postings by requiring membership.  You'd be
> surprised how many individuals will join just
> because after reading a post, they find that they
> now have some questions, or have something to say. 
> You can still always moderate newcomers, and
> gradually give them more privileges as you become
> more familiar with their posts and their
> personalities.
> 
> I cannot figure out why some groups prohibit mere
> visitors from reading their content.  For the most
> part, I do not like to join groups when I don't have
> a clue as to what the discussions are about.  The
> "Subject Header" rarely gives enough incite into the
> body of the text.  But, given the ability of free
> reading and searches, the NSLA-NOVA group may
> eventually swell its ranks.
> 
> I am the owner/moderator of the Ham-Radio-History
> group0 on Yahoogroups. 
> < www.yahoogroups.com/list/ham-radio-history > 
> Having started it in 1998, it is nearly 630
> subscribers strong; with participants from all
> around the world.  Every posted message has always
> been "readable" to any visitor since the very
> beginning.  Going there today, you can find the
> earliest posts from 1998.  In addition, many old
> timers (who are now silent keys) have left their
> stories and their reminiscences of early ham radio,
> which otherwise would been lost.  Their legacy lives
> on in the archives.   I think that is why our group
> has grown as successfully as it has.  Today, we have
> two additional  moderators, and between the three of
> us, we are always busy.
> 
> Hoping this puts things into perspective...
> 
> Pete, N8PB
> (Moderator, Ham-Radio-History, YahooGroups)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Kuby 
>   To: NLSA-NOVA at yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 12:15 PM
>   Subject: [NLSA-NOVA] Re: Poll VOTING
> 
> 
>   I respect you thoughts but here's some questions
> for you;
> 
>   Can you "search" through the Nova-NET messages for
> issues/answers on a
>   subject you need information? No, you must send
> out a redundant query
>   message to the whole NET and HOPE for an answer. 
> 
>   Can you obtain or share NOVA files via Nova-NET?
> No
> 
>   Maybe these items are not important to you but
> your viewpoint is
>   rather narrow not taking into considerations new
> users or the services
>   provided here. 
> 
>   Nova-NET is a grood mass-market emailer but this
> type of site offers
>   much more. The best part is YOU need do nothing
> but reap the rewards
>   of the information posted, all the work/effort is
> upon me and active
>   users. 
> 
>   FYI, This is not the only User Group I've started
> or moderate - check out:
>  
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CallSignSoftware-Support
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HomeNetwork-Hamdom
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RealmixW
> 
>   This is America and we all have the right to our
> opinions, some of us
>   gave much to keep these FREEdoms! (Vietnam Vet -
> 10 yrs USN)
> 
> 
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